In the CBR article by Timothy Blake Donohoo, the following is mentioned and suggested:*Hawkman needs to be radically altered.
What would that do? Hawkman has a reputation that was maybe irrevocably damaged by the Justice League cartoon series in the 2000s. He was basically made into a psycho stalker that annoyed the fans of the Hawkgirl-John Stewart romance. The kids that grew up with that are now the writers and adult fans of comics. Yet another radical change is just going to muck it up more.
*The disparate nature of the Egypt and Thanagar origins has given the character horrendously confusing continuity.
Gardner Fox's very first story in 1939 and Robert Venditti's series made it easy to understand how it is all possible. If people paid attention to those stories and concepts, all of the complaints about Hawkman being confusing would be eased. Yes, the Hawkworld series in the 90s really threw everyone, but Venditti solved it in a way that actully made sense without requiring a PhD. Don't waste it.
*The new universe takes things away, so Hawkman could be Hawkman without the continuity baggage.
Is that what the new event is doing? Batman is no longer rich, Superman is no longer with Lois, and Wonder Woman is no longer an Amazon? The writer suggests streamlining Hawkman by taking away the Egyptian or Thanagarian stories. Why do that. Having both of those backgrounds is what makes Hawkman a character with incredible potential as a character.
*Let Hawkman keep his wings, mace and Nth metal.
Add Hawkwoman to that. Hawkman and Hawkwoman work best when they are together.
*Hawkman has largely been overlooked in the grand scheme of things, especially after the end of a lauded comic book run by Robert Venditti.
No argument there. It's been four years since Venditti's series ended and since then it's been a slow dribble of 8-page stories hidden in anthologies, back panel props, appearnaces with no lines, and stories that were never finished. There are currently no plans for Hawkman, but it does appear that he will be in Jeff Lemire's JSA series that's starting in November. Why he is with Kendra Saunders again is anybody's guess. I thought that pairing was done for good after that horrible series by...the name escapes me now.
Add Hawkwoman to that. Hawkman and Hawkwoman work best when they are together.
*Hawkman has largely been overlooked in the grand scheme of things, especially after the end of a lauded comic book run by Robert Venditti.
No argument there. It's been four years since Venditti's series ended and since then it's been a slow dribble of 8-page stories hidden in anthologies, back panel props, appearnaces with no lines, and stories that were never finished. There are currently no plans for Hawkman, but it does appear that he will be in Jeff Lemire's JSA series that's starting in November. Why he is with Kendra Saunders again is anybody's guess. I thought that pairing was done for good after that horrible series by...the name escapes me now.
Venditti left us with a Hawkman who was back with Hawkwoman, had a super spaceship, discovered new abilities with his mace, was done with reincarnation, and had his network of friends starting to come together again. Hawkman's potential was bursting with possibilities, but does DC want to just throw that all away and make Hawkman simple? Sounds like a gimmick that will be discarded once again once the sales start to go down.
I can see where Donohoo is coming from, and discarding years of stories from Hawkman to make him simple may be what the current readership wants. But I think it would lose the reader's interest and be cast aside pretty quickly. Hawkman fans are split right down the middle when it comes to which version they prefer. Losing one half of that doesn't seem like the best way to go. Find a way to bring them together. Oh yeah, Venditti already did that!
What do the Hawkfans think? Should Hawkman by streamlined and whittled down to something "simple?" But that's if Jim Lee decides to put bring back Hawkman and Hawkwoman in their own series. And that's a very big if.
What do the Hawkfans think? Should Hawkman by streamlined and whittled down to something "simple?" But that's if Jim Lee decides to put bring back Hawkman and Hawkwoman in their own series. And that's a very big if.
Yeah, I don't think another reboot of Hawkman is needed at this point. And with this new universe's more serious tone being caused by "Darkseid energy" shenanigans, I can't help but feel that we'd just get another New 52 Hawkman. No thanks.
ReplyDeleteI do sympathize with the CBR author here a little bit. Due to my own bias in choosing Tim Truman's Hawkworld as the starting point for the character, I do prefer having Hawkman rooted in the realm of pure science fiction. But I was also amazed with how Robert Venditti perfectly resolved that conflict between his sci-fi origin and his mystical reincarnation origin that I no longer mind either.
Gardner Fox himself wrote tons about both science fiction and magic, and there's hints of both elements in his Hawkman origin, so Venditti really was staying true to the character's roots. His run is the perfect reboot already. It just needs a good follow-up that doesn't further complicate what was established before.
I just do not want Kendra and Carter to be back together again. Goodness Im sick of the back and forth
ReplyDeleteMe personally, Why not make Hawkman the equivalent of Vandal Savage in the Absolute Universe? It may take away the reincarnation angle but keeps the historical aspects of the character. The way I envisioned it, The meteorite that struck Earth in prehistoric times was composed of Nth metal, and granted him a type of Immortality, that he lives for 70-100 years and then needs to "Hibernate" for a decade or 2. If he's "Killed" before that time the hibernation process starts earlier. He's able to manipulate the Nth Metal that he was exposed to manifesting into his mace / Wings / Helmet. Add a Historical context that after he was first exposed, He encountered a "goddess" (A Thanagarian who visited Earth investigating the meteorite) Which influenced him to Manifest the metal in that way.
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